tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5390527805110708777.post796429467866919072..comments2023-10-10T01:41:03.350+11:00Comments on Desert: A monastery of her ownAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05972285659958872775noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5390527805110708777.post-24214989808955261092008-08-04T11:31:00.000+10:002008-08-04T11:31:00.000+10:00Hi Miss EagleI did follow the link you provided (o...Hi Miss Eagle<BR/>I did follow the link you provided (of course). What I meant was a link between the name and the Cole Porter song. I did not find any mention in the serious articles.<BR/>I love the name of the "Beghards", and I realise it is probably a linguistic accident, but I like the idea of them begging hard.<BR/>DenisDenis Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10031115992910569116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5390527805110708777.post-81129876644969139782008-08-04T08:09:00.000+10:002008-08-04T08:09:00.000+10:00Denis, I have already linked to the Wikipedia arti...Denis, I have already linked to the Wikipedia article on the beguines and the beghards in the post. Perhaps if you follow that through you will get more details. You will also find, if my memory is correct, links on the NYT article to which there is a link in the post. There is quite a bit of stuff on the net - since the beguines and the beghards have a firm place in the history of Christian mysticism. I have not included all that there is to be said on the beguines and the beghards because it is quite extensive - particularly when it came to the dominant powers of the church and the church's treatment of these men and women as heretics. Now, perhaps some did qualify as heretics it is possible to argue, but there is also an argument that not all were. For myself, I liked the idea that they were in a category of their own: not the usual religious professional nor pious laypeople. As well, I like the social aspect of their vocation. And - as you would suspect - I liked the idea that women led the way in this movement and men followed after.<BR/><BR/>Blessings and blissAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05972285659958872775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5390527805110708777.post-85145982633858989022008-08-03T11:51:00.000+10:002008-08-03T11:51:00.000+10:00I went in search of an explanation of the Cole Por...I went in search of an explanation of the Cole Porter song lyric - with little success. I heard on the radio a few days ago someone say it refers to an old dance. Makes sense, perhaps. <BR/><BR/>"When they begin the beguine<BR/>It brings back the sound of music so tender<BR/>It brings back a night of tropical splendor<BR/>It brings back a memory ever green"<BR/><BR/>But I wonder if there is a link to these people you have brought up? That would be more interesting than most pop culture website would ever bother to explore. These sites all just try to explain Cole Porter's song in terms of drug references. That doesn't help me at all (nor CP, it seems).<BR/><BR/>A thought provoking post for young and old, male and female, alike.<BR/><BR/>DenisDenis Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10031115992910569116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5390527805110708777.post-80580259810424177902008-08-01T00:48:00.000+10:002008-08-01T00:48:00.000+10:00Excellent post! I have heard of the Beguines (I ha...Excellent post! I have heard of the Beguines (I have to say the Cole Porter song keeps popping into my head...) but don't know much about them, and will enjoy exploring your links.<BR/>Of course the circumstances you describe are the very reason a lot of intelligent women became nuns - it was sometimes the only way to acquire relative independence and an education.Ted Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03614757494008500523noreply@blogger.com